tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post570089857953898003..comments2024-03-23T13:18:17.693-05:00Comments on Anybody Want A Peanut?: Transportation Master Plan. (How exciting!)cherenkovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15355986781478585611noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post-51881335407621120742011-11-04T02:00:28.247-05:002011-11-04T02:00:28.247-05:00LOL 2031 to complete a bus route to a suburb. Fcke...LOL 2031 to complete a bus route to a suburb. Fcken eh Winnpeg.<br /><br /><br />And Centreport, lol, what a joke. Weez got swindled.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post-12247195360641041522011-11-03T19:58:53.176-05:002011-11-03T19:58:53.176-05:00@Reed: That's what Centre Port Canada Way is f...@Reed: That's what Centre Port Canada Way is for. I don't think the rest of the new roads are necessary for that. Get the trucks out to the Perimeter and let them go. The guy at the open house tried to argue that there would be tons of traffic from people working at Centre Port, but really? That much?<br /><br />@OMC: I'm tempted to rewrite some Robert Palmer lyrics ..<br /><br />@Anon: I agree we may not be able to justify the whole kaboodle yet, but certainly the SW line should be built asap. That's what I'm whining about. It should have been built years ago.<br /><br />@MrC: good pointcherenkovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15355986781478585611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post-81822562957170906772011-11-03T16:07:58.178-05:002011-11-03T16:07:58.178-05:00When reading through some of the plan I, too, noti...When reading through some of the plan I, too, noticed that improvements = brand new new. <br /><br />It certainly puts a kink into the half hearted argument made by the mayor that the city and feds need to pony up more cash for infrastructure renewal when all you truck out are multi-million dollar, shiny new infrastructure projects to spend it on.Christian Cassidyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17691310860448400887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post-20832032458309541612011-11-03T12:40:22.048-05:002011-11-03T12:40:22.048-05:00What I find hilarious is how it is always the same...What I find hilarious is how it is always the same people whining about rapid transit. The hard fact is that we don't have the population to justify the 2 - 2.5 Billion it would cost to build a true rapid transit network.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post-17516225245658717772011-11-03T08:24:40.169-05:002011-11-03T08:24:40.169-05:00The first step to overcoming an addiction is admit...The first step to overcoming an addiction is admitting that you have one. The City of Winnipeg is not there yet when it comes to sprawl and growth-for-growth's-sake.<br /><br />There is still a mentality in this city that road congestion is a problem that can only be solved by throwing money at it and building more roads - suburban roads and expressways are an article of faith, while transit improvements (including rapid transit) are just a frill for the hippies and poor people. Of course, that line of thinking is only going to make the infrastructure deficit bigger and bigger.One Man Committeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10586227505412268204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post-84262092268034054232011-11-03T02:10:58.175-05:002011-11-03T02:10:58.175-05:00The inner ring road is important to centreport is ...The inner ring road is important to centreport is it not? I'm in favour of it<br /><br />As for rapid transit, I wish we weren't so fixated on buses and subsidizing new flyer, but whatever. Just do it. My nikes are getting worn from the walking. (I don't really wear nikes)<br /><br />Still I do agree that there is a peculiar culture in the planning department that is not healthy for this city.reedsolomon.matr1x at gmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17833240911634788354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post-23046645529439180052011-11-02T22:51:52.120-05:002011-11-02T22:51:52.120-05:00I talked to the guy about IKEA too. Saying "w...I talked to the guy about IKEA too. Saying "we can't afford it" is a cop-out, but that's his excuse. Inept leadership is a big factor, but the planners should be putting out smart urban design and if council shoots it down so be it. It's a shame if they feel they can't do that, but explains a lot.cherenkovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15355986781478585611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post-15249300466084770512011-11-02T21:37:17.403-05:002011-11-02T21:37:17.403-05:00from the conversation i had with one of the planne...from the conversation i had with one of the planners there, i got the feeling that this guy was working in a climate where he was afraid to push too hard on transit and active transportation for fear of not being taken seriously. as if good city planning was some subversive leftist plot to deny suburbanites the right to drive.<br /><br />like you pointed out, until there is some leadership on this issue we're up shit's creek. the tmp does not bode well for this city's future.ekimsharpehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15100571778278590106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post-41208982649333184422011-11-02T21:12:37.755-05:002011-11-02T21:12:37.755-05:00This is IKEA all over again. Remember the traffic ...This is IKEA all over again. Remember the traffic plans for IKEA? Flashy panels at open houses with traffic engineers being grilled over the silliness of increasing the capacity of the road AND putting up more traffic lights?<br /><br />You're 100% right, if they can put an underpass at Rothesay in NK they can build a flyover at Lag/Fermor. <br /><br />I'm sure Winnipeggers will look forward to stopping yet once more on our perimeter highway as well.<br /><br />If our planners and such are getting a bad rap, they're doing a great job earning their reputations. Looking forward to 2031...what will transportation really be like? We assume things will continue forever the way they are. Do they - really - think that by 2031, a) gas will be $1.20/l or b) we'll all have electric cars?<br /><br />Waverly West is bad enough...factoring this Fermor/Bishop/Lag stuff into the Sage Creek sprawl just compounds our love affair with suburbs and all the wonderful things that come with it. <br /><br />I looked at the open house on this transportation plan a few months ago...it was crap then, I think it's crap now. There's not a lot of things to applause in these plans. More of the same old, same old.Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13940646111715304357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post-10281465598347060082011-11-02T20:49:53.084-05:002011-11-02T20:49:53.084-05:00Right, so here's the thing about the Bishop Gr...Right, so here's the thing about the Bishop Grandin extension: both neighbourhoods already have access to Lagimodiere via controlled intersections. If they need another way out for safey reasons, you can connect the two with a road rather than separating them by a major thoroughfare, or connect them to Plessis.<br /><br />This new extension will create a new dangerous intersection with Hwy 1, where highway-speed traffic will be brought to a stand-still. This is something we should be getting away from, not creating more of. Plus it will necessitate another rail crossing, and a new major intersection with Plessis, in addition to the new intersections with Sage Creek and Southland Park. That's a lot of traffic lights, Bud, and for not much gain.cherenkovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15355986781478585611noreply@blogger.com