tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post8987797526048515984..comments2024-03-23T13:18:17.693-05:00Comments on Anybody Want A Peanut?: Waterfront hotel experiencing development hostilitycherenkovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15355986781478585611noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post-24896472268260294392011-09-16T19:00:35.201-05:002011-09-16T19:00:35.201-05:00Can you imagine if Gord lived somewhere that had m...Can you imagine if Gord lived somewhere that had more than 200 years of history?cherenkovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15355986781478585611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post-70049984603759258552011-09-16T08:20:25.002-05:002011-09-16T08:20:25.002-05:00There's another parking lot a bit up the road ...There's another parking lot a bit up the road at Waterfront and George Avenue that was the site of Fort Douglas which the locals burned to the ground in the early 1800s.<br />In this case the City built Waterfront Drive right through its footprint.<br />Gordo should do more research and get the City to rip up the road and preserve this historical site too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post-51169463034136403442011-09-13T23:01:19.070-05:002011-09-13T23:01:19.070-05:00I agree that UFG 'area' deserves some enha...I agree that UFG 'area' deserves some enhancement, but that was part of Crystal Development's plans. They made a compromise to stay off the footprint of the fort and develop the fort area into a park and interpretive centre, but apparently that wasn't good enough for some people.<br /><br />It wasn't necessary to kill the apartment to honour the history of the area. In fact, Crystal's original concept is probably more in-keeping with the heritage of UFG than the holographic wall that the Friends came up with.cherenkovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15355986781478585611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post-71965296421458324122011-09-13T15:12:55.167-05:002011-09-13T15:12:55.167-05:00I think there is some ambiguity regarding your st...I think there is some ambiguity regarding your statement. If you reread the sentence the impression I get is that everyone agrees that residential development at the UFG site is critical to the vitality of the downtown. I think you meant to say that everyone agrees that residential development ( in general) is critical to the vitality of the downtown. The latter is a statement I certainly agree with . <br /> On the other hand UFG is , in my opinion, essential in preserving and celebrating a key part of our history . It was the hot spot in the events of 1869-70. An important enough site to merit it's own "area" . It would seem to me that there are other areas close by that would have had the same positive effect you mention. <br /> Anyways I didn't want to rant on about why UFG needs to be preserved. I just thought you turned a criticism of Gordon Sinclair's writing into a criticism of anyone who dares oppose development.Gerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16959566263383767527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post-66992846671472655282011-09-12T18:27:37.404-05:002011-09-12T18:27:37.404-05:00@Gerry: Do you disagree that residential developme...@Gerry: Do you disagree that residential development is critical to the vitality of downtown? Even supporters of UFG agree with that. Some might disagree that this specific development was critical, but the growth of the population base downtown has been slow and there has been almost no apartment construction in many years. The Crystal development would have brought hundreds more people to the area, spending money, walking on the streets, and creating a safer environment.<br /><br />My disdain for Gordon Sinclair is due to the deception, hyperbole, and outright lies in his columns. He whole intention was to mislead the readers. It was absolutely atrocious journalism that ultimately had a destructive impact on the city.<br /><br />Finally, not everybody who supported the Friends of UFG are anti-development. In fact most of the people I talked to who supported it were simply mis-informed, as a result of the aforementioned journalism. Almost universally they believed that the apartment building would be built on top of the fort or would somehow destroy the remaining gate.cherenkovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15355986781478585611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post-23711291332058068892011-09-12T14:42:18.756-05:002011-09-12T14:42:18.756-05:00You criticize Sinclair's column yet you use on...You criticize Sinclair's column yet you use one of the oldest tricks in the writer's arsenal about 3 sentences in. You make a blanket statement that we all agree that the proposed residential development was critical to the vitality of downtown Winnipeg. Really ? We all agree ? I think you’re mixing up your disdain for Gordon Sinclair’s column with your disdain for anyone who dares oppose a critical (?) residential development . <br /><br />So don't try and insult our intelligence. The rest of your post had some valid points, you don't need to portray people who supported the Upper Fort Garry park as anti-development. <br /> <br />By the way , maybe you can explain how the proposed development at the UFG site was “critical” to Winnipeg’s downtown development. Your comment that , given the reversal at the UFG site , developers may be driven away was worth at least a chuckle.Gerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16959566263383767527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post-81565836695781332862011-09-12T12:22:00.477-05:002011-09-12T12:22:00.477-05:00I have this strong urge to create a sarcastic &quo...I have this strong urge to create a sarcastic "Save Winnipeg's Parking Lots" website.<br /><br />"For the low price of daily parking, you can save a Winnipeg parking lot from development and maintain the wide open spaces in our city's core"Sean Carneyhttp://www.seancarney.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post-5013463361867790912011-09-11T16:00:45.916-05:002011-09-11T16:00:45.916-05:00This is just another example of the useless planni...This is just another example of the useless planning and control over the cities development at Main StreetThe Travelerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12863403166217310337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post-6002567540025037742011-09-11T14:24:28.729-05:002011-09-11T14:24:28.729-05:00This is why The Peg falls behind compared to other...This is why The Peg falls behind compared to other cities & their developments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2559260500579382213.post-35490939577657655762011-09-11T10:43:57.337-05:002011-09-11T10:43:57.337-05:00Thanks for the post clarifying you're position...Thanks for the post clarifying you're position. I definitely agree with you that it's unfortunate the city hasn't already looked at opportunities along the riverfront for green space.<br /><br />It's sort of the unfortunate thing about our cities, there's no global vision or foresight. We tackle things as they come and this is a perfect example. Here we could reclaim the waterfront keep it public and have this wonderful connection going from Point Douglas through to the Assiniboine riverwalk. <br /><br />Fact of the matter is it's not a suitable area for a hotel. But if our city planners and politicians can't zone properly or think ahead, we get stuck with this piecemeal urbanism that makes no coherent sense.Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17644290144165164964noreply@blogger.com